Finding Your Spine

The Thirty Year Fight Against Anthrax Mandates and Illegal Orders

Herzog Foundation Episode 48

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Dr. Chase Spears welcomes retired Air Force Colonel Tom Rempfer, whose nearly 30-year battle against the unlawful anthrax vaccine mandate mirrors the recent fight against COVID shot coercion in the military. Tom shares how the program—declared illegal by federal courts in 2004 for using an unapproved, investigational product—led to punishments, discharges, and career setbacks for thousands of service members.


He details historical parallels: the vaccine's regulatory failures (no finalized FDA license since 1985), post-Gulf War concerns linking it to undiagnosed illnesses, the 2001 anthrax letter attacks (later tied to a Fort Detrick insider saving the failing program), and the creation of emergency use authorization as a lowered standard to bypass injunctions.


The conversation explores gaslighting, inverted accountability (whistleblowers punished, enablers promoted), and the urgent need for record corrections, back pay, and proactive reviews—patterns repeated in the COVID era. Tom urges the current administration to extend equitable remedies to anthrax veterans, emphasizing constitutional duty over blind compliance.


A powerful call to learn from history and never give in.


00:00:00 - Introduction

00:01:23 - Tom's Career and Advocacy

00:02:08 - What Keeps the Fight Going

00:03:13 - Gulf War Illness Connections

00:04:59 - Investigational Vaccine Status

00:06:16 - Regulatory Failures Pre-2003

00:07:15 - Emergency Use Authorization History

00:09:31 - Anthrax Letters and Cover-Up

00:11:22 - Parallels to COVID Mandates

00:13:21 - Inversion of Accountability

00:15:19 - Gulf War Exposures Revisited

00:17:16 - Nixon's 1969 Biodefense Memo

00:19:50 - White House Interventions

00:22:44 - Fort Detrick Insider Role

00:25:06 - Command Gaslighting Experiences

00:28:23 - Duty to Disobey Illegal Orders

00:32:14 - Current Remedies and Hope

00:34:15 - Equitable Treatment Needed

00:36:05 - 2018 Trump Directive Undermined

00:38:52 - Call for Anthrax Record Fixes

00:42:29 - Task Force Accountability

00:46:09 - Whistleblower Treatment Patterns

00:48:31 - Senate Report 197 Lessons

00:50:35 - Biodefense Strategy Failures

00:53:15 - Naval Postgraduate Recognition

00:55:04 - COVID Cover-Up Parallels

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